Okay, so this is starting to really roll around my head.
Dutch or not, I like the idea of getting firebreathers on Every continent to shoot for this record. We could make a media fiasco out of it and get some multinational media house (ABC sports?) to help with the coordination. They get juicy video, we get media coverage of the attempt, and help coordinating.
If we do it as an awareness builder about 'global warming', maybe during sweeps week, Oh, this could be really big....
Dutch or not, I like the idea of getting firebreathers on Every continent to shoot for this record. We could make a media fiasco out of it and get some multinational media house (ABC sports?) to help with the coordination. They get juicy video, we get media coverage of the attempt, and help coordinating.
If we do it as an awareness builder about 'global warming', maybe during sweeps week, Oh, this could be really big....
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Thu, September 13, 2007 - 2:56 AMOkay, So, I have Los Angeles down. We need:
1) every continent - NA, SA, Aus, Asia, Europe, Africa, Antartica. I'm not betting on breathers way down under, but I already have volunteers to fly down there.
2) All the major cities: LA, NYC, Hong Kong, London, Paris, Moscow, Goa, etc.
3) major US cities: Miami, Nashville, Chicago, Phoenix, SF, Seattle, etc.
One person would have to take point at each of these locations, organize the breathers there and be the liaison for the media. If we can't get major coverage, they may have to foot the bill on conference calls and such. -
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Fri, September 14, 2007 - 12:06 AMwhen are we planning this? i'm in and in the sf bay area. -
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Fri, September 14, 2007 - 12:20 AMHmmm, we aren't yet. I'm still waiting back on the Dutch. But eventually, we'll need to pick a date.
If this is to be an international event, it can't be something like Earth Day, or some other US-centric date. -
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Fri, September 14, 2007 - 12:20 AMBut when we figure it out, it'll go here...
globalwarmingevent.info/
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Wed, September 19, 2007 - 2:12 PMHey Tedward
The global warming idea is very nice but there are a lot of technical difficulties.
I think it is almost impossible to organize the event and I will join the idea but I am not going to organize it.
Who is going to check if the attempt is made all over the world on exactly the same time?
How can you check this?
Then the problem of the different climates, when the season is calm overhear it can be stormy at the other site of the ocean. So, before setting a date you must find out what time of the year is the calmest on the weather on different places of the world.
The time of the day is also very important. Overhear we have a lot of wind all over the year (very flat country), so if we make an attempt we do it at sunset, then the wind is most calm. So we have about one hour of calm wind, you may try to blend in at this time but for us it is difficult to join the attemp on the middle of the day (much to windy).
Bart Jansens
Mail me at rooiesok@hotmail.com
p.s. sorry for my poor English, but I slept a lot at school during English lessons...... ;-)
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Wed, September 19, 2007 - 2:35 PMYeah, step 1 will be to secure communications. I'm trying to get ABC sports to sponsor us or something, then we get satellite linking.
Then we work on the date. I'm sure it will coincide with the olympics or something big and international.
Once those two are knocked out, we might get them to sponsor up some warehouses for the places that are under rain, storms, etc. -
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Thu, September 20, 2007 - 10:24 AM
Have you considered just using very accurate synchronized clocks at the different locations?
At every site, have a big clock and agree on specific times for the breathing, perhaps do it several times a few minutes apart.
Just film all of the sites with the clocks in the picture and I bet that would be sufficient to say that they were at the same time.
Then, when it's all done, we look at all the video and decide on the best instance when the most people are together.
I think having secure communications with several sites on several continents all taking a cue coming from one location would be a more difficult way to do it. Even if you got ABC to provide a state-of-the-art system for communications, I don't think it would be the best way to synchronize the sites.
Also, with respect to making sure that the weather is amenable for all locations, Perhaps one thought is to try to get as many in doors as possible, like in high-school gymnasiums or indoor sports arenas.
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Thu, September 20, 2007 - 11:09 AMWell, i disagree with you on having essentially video phones to synchronize as the lesser way to do it. But here's the beautiful part. If we can't get a media outlet to sponsor it, we can fall back to the clocks.
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Fri, September 21, 2007 - 6:17 AMHow would that affect getting someone in Antarctica? Don't they allow clocks there? -
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Fri, September 21, 2007 - 10:06 AMNo, we could send someone with their crew. I don't have any contacts at all in antarctica. Since only a couple dozen people at most are there at any given time, the odds of finding one who also breathes fire is pretty slim. -
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Thu, October 25, 2007 - 8:12 AMThey're simply not allowed to breathe fire there. Aside from the fact that the fuel would probably give them instant frostbite, the humidity there is near zero and the winds howl constantly. There are few places with more fire-risk on earth. Most of the people down there are scientists, and the rest are firefighters.
The up side is there are more than a few dozen people there. About 4000 people work there in the summer. When its light 24 hours a day, doesn't make for pretty fireballs. Neither do white-out conditions.
It doesn't matter, its not a nation. Its a continent. So its not really important to an "international" event.
I also think that raising awareness of global warming is like raising awareness that the world is round. But thats another matter :)
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Fri, September 14, 2007 - 3:35 AMIll be the Philly contact if ye needeth one.
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Fri, September 14, 2007 - 6:26 AM
"Global Warming" awareness by creating a bunch of CO2? I'm a big fan of irony, too! Count me in! -
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Fri, September 14, 2007 - 10:04 AMActually, there's a twist. greenhouse gasses trap heat and are invisible. However, many of the sources that produce them also produce particulate matter that may be causing 'global dimming'. Basically, a few particles in the upper atmosphere start gathering pre-rain water vapor until they become heavy enough to fall. Lots of particles distribute the vapor and fail to fall, but stay buoyant and reflective. Some fellow figured out how to test this in the 3 days after 9-11 (no planes in the sky).
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Fri, September 14, 2007 - 10:34 AM
What a lovely rationalization! More particulate matter in the atmosphere is good!
I think that to be serious about this we should do some calculations and organize the planting of a number of trees that would offset our emissions. It probably wouldn't be many, but maybe such a statement would eliminate the apparent hypocracy- your "particulates cool the earth", argument notwithstanding.
By the way, do you have a reference for that in a publication in a reputable scientific journal?
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Fri, September 14, 2007 - 11:14 AMNope, saw it on Nova. Haven't checked any of it.
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Fri, September 14, 2007 - 7:10 PMI'm in SF and you can count me in! oh yeah! I still have a partial ever since we went 21 on that fire pass!
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Wed, September 19, 2007 - 2:16 PMHe,...... stay of the weed.
We are from The Netherlands, weed is our "cup of tea" ;-)
Bart jansens
p.s. it's still a very strange idea that you get busted for something that is rather accepted overhere...
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Sat, September 22, 2007 - 10:29 AMYo Bart - if you got room on your couch, I'll be there before November...
Netherlands may have legal pot, but the Emerald Triangle grows the best on the planet.
That's Humboldt, Mendocino, and Trinity if ya don't know already...
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Wed, October 24, 2007 - 6:00 PMIt's not really illegal. You just need to get a note from your DR. But you cant smoke it in our coffee shops, they actually want you to drink expensive coffee there. -
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Thu, October 25, 2007 - 2:06 AMActually, yes, it IS illegal. the DEA can bust you any time they spot you. That's why so many distribution points have been shut down and doctors under review. The state law only protects you from state police. Local ordinances and Federal law aren't changed by it. -
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Thu, October 25, 2007 - 8:23 AMAnd some of us live in the states that DONT have medical marijuana OR decriminalization. In my state, you go to JAIL for a few seeds or stems.
Technically, its not legal in the Netherlands either. Due to UN treaty from the 60s pushed by the US, no UN nation can legalize. Thats why the Netherlands has to simply "tolerate it" without removing the laws from the books. And the only reason they can get away with that is that they don't depend on the US for anything at all.
People get arrested and sent to prison for cannabis in the Netherlands from time to time. Crazy but true. (usually large growers, but still!)
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